Evil’s Power – I want to tell you and I love you so much please hear me cry out to you


Well let’s talk about this subject, Lessons in Love.  talking about the different types of lessons in love.  lessons in love to do with loving yourself, and lessons in love to do with loving others. And today I’d like to cover this subject, Love has power over evil. And I’ve purposely used the term evil because I’d like to define it, if we can do that.

But if you think about the contrast between what the world’s views about love and what the world’s views about evil, what would you come up with? So if we compare what the world’s views of love and what the world’s views of evil, are in terms of their abilities to overcome the other, what are the basic beliefs you can see that the world has about  love? Is love powerful enough to overcome evil?
No.
The world’s view of love

Most people on the world would say no. So what do they view love to be then? So love is sweet, insipid some would say, what else? Weak, vulnerable, caring, chancy, risky, shall I use the term risky? A fabrication of the mind! Many have a very strong condescension towards love. It’s for suckers. So what would you say if we use a less colloquial term? For fools, love is for fools. So foolish, conditional, love is blind, yes, impractical. Love is power, but does the world view that? Because if love was power…
Participant: The ego mind would say power was that you could force people to do things but love is the power to create.
Yep, but do most people on the planet believe that? I would say most people on the planet don’t believe that. Unreliable
is what a lot of people believe. How many of you have had an unreliable love in your live?
Participant: It’s painful.
Painful, yes!
Participant: Sacrifice.

Sacrifice, yes. Fleeting, yes. Hurtful, yes. (AJ sings “Love Hurts”) Irrational, very good. Overwhelming… do most people let themselves ever be overwhelmed by love? Instead what do they say? There are different things people say
about not letting yourself be overwhelmed by love. If I just extend this idea a bit. How many of you allow yourselves to be overwhelmed by the love you feel? on a day-to-day basis. So that would tell me that there is a different viewpoint  of love than it being overwhelming. So I do feel that for many of us, if we felt love fully we would be overwhelmed but most of us try to control that. We don’t want to be overwhelmed. We want to be in control. So there’s an issue there.
Participant: Distancing.Do most people feel that? I don’t feel most people feel that.
Participant: Intercourse.
So sex! Limited in lots of different ways, hey? Can you see we’re starting to get a bit of a picture?
Participant: Earned.
Earned, yes. Okay. So that’s our view of love. Let’s just rub evil out. Now can you see there are a lot of pretty negative  connotations in all of that, isn’t there? If you look at it honestly, of what we view love to be, there are often some very negative connotations in what we view love to be. We don’t see love as a powerful force, we see love as all of these  weak things, which we see as foolish and painful and hurting. We’ve got all of these concepts about love that are really
quite negative actually. Can you see?
So when I say love has power over evil, people go, “What?! Evil has power over everything,” is the viewpoint that most people have. And therefore they believe it also has power over love. So can we see that we don’t actually have  firstly a good concept of love, but secondly we don’t have any concept of love’s power inbuilt in us now, because of all of these experiences we’ve had and all of these experiences of life that have caused us to believe that love is something  that’s insipid and weak, we have this concept that love isn’t something that is practical or reliable in day-to-day life. We
believe this, in our soul we believe it.
In our mind we say to other people, “Love is everything”. In our soul we say, “Love is these things”.

AJ points to the descriptions on the whiteboard) Can you see? Now of course that covers a lot of emotional hurt, doesn’t it? These  statements that we’re making about love that many people on the planet feel, demonstrate how hurt we are with love.  How we have a very flawed concept of the whole idea of love. So bearing that in mind, that’s our viewpoint of love.
We don’t see love as a powerful force in the universe.

The world’s view of evil
How do we see evil?
Participant: Powerful. Self-centredness. Selfishness.
Right, so selfish.
Participant: Scary.
Scary.
Participant: Cruel.
Cruel.
Participant: Powerful.Powerful.
Participant: Manipulative.
Manipulative, Controlling, Inevitable, Yes. Omnipotent.
Participant: Eternal.
Yep, it’s going to be around forever.
Participant: Enduring. Victorious.
Yeah. We’re often totally petrified of it, are we not? Yep. So we see it as threatening.
Participant: Personified in some being.
Right, so we relate things like the devil, demons to such a concept, don’t we?
Participant: Strong.
Strong.
Participant: Harmful. Filled with lies and deceit.
Can you automatically start seeing a pattern here that there’s a duality we feel about it, can you see that? So what’s the  duality that we see about evil? On one hand we see it as powerful, controlling, the way of the world. On the other hand
we see it as terrible, scary, like can you see how we sort of have this almost like a love hate relationship with evil? Can you see that? When we talk about love, we sort of look down upon love in our souls but when we talk about evil can you see we almost have an adoration for it in some way? As well as a scary feeling whenever we think of it! It’s sort of like we admire it but at the same time hate it. Yes? That’s how we often feel about evil.

Now can you see straight away that it’s going to be very, very difficult for me, if I have these concepts about love, and this concept of evil, to ever believe that love has power over evil? Do you see? And my whole emotional state is going to be that I am going to be frightened at the thought that love could possibly have power over evil. I’m actually going to be actually terrified of accepting that concept because every bit of evidence that I think I’ve seen in my life seems to tell me the opposite; that evil is the thing that has power. That evil is the thing that controls. Evil is the thing that demands its acceptance.

Evil relies on fear and terror to control us
Now evil relies, and if I define… perhaps we need to define evil, which we will in a minute, but I will just make a statement first that evil relies on your fear of it in order to control you. Evil relies on your fear of evil to control you. If you were not afraid of evil, it could not control you but for the majority of us, when we consider evil we are terrified.
So if we look at the base word, terror, it’s a very interesting word that connotates a lot of things emotionally for us,
doesn’t it. Participant: Can we put dishonesty up there.
Evil, yes certainly we can have dishonesty.

Responses to terror – Let’s look at the terror.

What does the emotion of terror do? Well it does one of three things generally, depending on its
severity. So what are those three things? Do you know? Fear causes you to either fight or flee or freeze. That’s what  terror does emotionally to us. Now whenever we conceive evil, whether we’re on the receiving end of it, or on the  giving end of it, we are generally involved in one of those three emotions, where we wish to fight, we wish to flee, get  away from a situation, or we just go into shock.

An example of rabbits’ terror responses
Now I’ve told this story before that my father used to shoot rabbits in Australia. Rabbits in Australia are treated as if  they are like vermin. They were brought from the English a couple of hundred years ago to Australia, before then
Australia didn’t have rabbits.
And so what happened was the rabbits, when they first came, they very, very rapidly multiplied and there were literally billions of them in Australia. Billions of them! And they introduced a number of diseases actually to control them in Australia. Firstly there was a disease called Myxomatosis, I can’t remember the next disease. But these diseases killed billions of the rabbits in their holes, just to get rid of the rabbits. Because what the rabbits were doing was they were  eating the bottom of all the trees, which weren’t used to the rabbits doing so, so much so that most of the trees didn’t
have hard enough bark and many of the trees died because they got ring barked at the bottom.
And a lot of the native flora and fauna that relied on the ecosystem died as a result and so it becomes a big issue. As a
result of that, many people in Australia have a deep hatred for any introduced species of animal, including rabbits. And
my father is one of those. He had this hatred for… well he just viewed them as vermin that he could shoot and he used
to go out shooting them most weekends. And when I was a child, I used to ride the motorbike and he used to be on the
back with his 22 rifle shooting rabbits while I was riding the motorbike.
But before I was born he described how there was so many rabbits that what they decided to do was that instead of
shooting them… which actually put a hole in their skin, which meant their skin, their pelt, was no longer very valuable
and it also put a hole in the flesh, which meant that they couldn’t sell the rabbit for food very easily. They had to cut off
that area of flesh. So what they decided to do was to shoot over the top of the head of the rabbit. And the sound barrier
crack would freeze the rabbit through terror. It would hear the bullet go past, the sound barrier crack of the bullet, and
it would instantly freeze. And you could actually walk up and pick up the rabbit. And then they’d slit the rabbit’s throat
and leave it for whatever.

Responding to terror with fight, freezing or fleeing causes the evil to grow
The terror of just that sound caused the rabbit to go into a complete frozen state. This is how many of us react to evil.

We are so terrified of it, that we’re actually frozen in its presence. If we don’t freeze, then we either attempt to do one of And you could actually walk up and pick up the rabbit. And then they’d slit the rabbit’s throat and leave it for whatever.

Responding to terror with fight, freezing or fleeing causes the evil to grow

The terror of just that sound caused the rabbit to go into a complete frozen state. This is how many of us react to evil.  We are so terrified of it, that we’re actually frozen in its presence. If we don’t freeze, then we either attempt to do one of these other two things. We either attempt to flee it, to go away, run away from it, or we wish to fight it. The irony is that if we respond to evil in any one of those three manners, evil will continue. So if you try to flee evil, it will follow you. If you try to fight evil, it will grow. And if you freeze it also grows. Because when you understand the psychology of evil, you start understanding why a person decides to be evil, and it’s always about causing a person to be frightened so much that they either, freeze, flee or want to fight you and you like every one of those things, if you’re evil.

So, this is our normal response to evil, and if we respond in any one of these normal ways to evil we are guaranteed evil will grow. And that’s why evil has grown on the planet. Mary?  Placating is another way we respond to terror

Mary: I feel like there’s a fourth way that I respond to evil sometimes, and that is possibly the worst.
Denial?
Mary: No, I try to placate the evil by getting approval. I actually join in something that is not loving for me because  I’m so frightened I just want to do anything to stop the…
Placate people, so you placate or try to pander to it?
Mary: Yeah, I try and make it happy, in order to go under the rage. It’s a fear response I feel, but I feel it’s a most  damaging response I can have for my own soul because I’m actually in some way joining the damaging thing. Yes, this idea of placating evil is a great way to avoid one of these emotions (AJ points to fear emotions on the whiteboard) or to avoid in fact this emotion (AJ points to terror on the whiteboard). So what we finish up doing with evil on the planet is we justify its existence so much that we pander to it. Can you see how that happens in day-to-day life? If you think of when the terror attacks happened on 9/11, there was evil there. For the first time on United States
soil, this concept that a person would die just to harm others was for the first time acted out en masse.
Responding to evil with fear does not overcome it
Mind you, it had been happening many other times in the United States if you look at it, because what about the War of Independence? Isn’t it sort of a similar concept? But unfortunately, you know, we’ve taken this event and turned it into
something a bit larger than perhaps it is but in the process we learned that, okay, evil exists. Somebody who conceived of that particular event obviously had a lot of evil within them, whoever it was that conceived the event. And for that reason we then decide that we’re going to do something with it. Now what was America’s choice? To fight! So that was America’s choice.
And what is the choice of somewhere like Iraq? What did they choose with that evil? Didn’t they choose to placate it?

Can you see that? Didn’t they choose to support the people who were involved in that, placate it, pander to the people who supported it? What about other counties in the Middle East? They felt the same, didn’t they? At the time, and not only other counties in the Middle East there were other things. What did other countries recommend? So the United
Nations before the war actually occurred in Iraq, what did the United Nations recommend? Can you remember? They really recommended this, didn’t they? (AJ points to placate on the whiteboard) Placating it, yes!  So what I’m trying to illustrate is that every response that mankind generally has to evil, every response that mankind has to evil, is mostly about either doing these things (AJ points to the fear responses on the whiteboard) and has any of
it eradicated evil?
No. So that tells me that placating evil does not work. It tells me, that going into a frozen state doesn’t work. It tells me that fleeing it doesn’t work because it just follows you and it tells me that fighting it doesn’t work either because all that happens is the evil grows when you fight it. So what works? Can you see why we believe nothing works and therefore evil is the most powerful thing? Can you see that?
Participant: The reason why I mentioned dishonesty is that I think any time we’re dishonest about anything it opens the door for a weakening position, and evil moves in. And it seems like every time honesty is presented, evil runs and
hides.
Okay, so truth is sort of an antidote…
Participant: Truth, yeah there you go.
We would call it that. And so we’ll talk about that in this discussion actually in terms of a lesson of love. So can we see that the average way we handle evil does not work? And what I’m going to propose is that there’s only thing that works.
It’s that weak thing that we just described. Let’s look at love again. It’s that thing, that’s the only thing that works.  The psychology of evil Now to understand how it works we need to understand the psychology of evil, we need to understand how evil thinks.
That makes sense, does it not? If we understand how evil thinks, then we can find the appropriate antidote to it and apply that to it and see through experience, through testing it, through experimentation, whether it works or not.

So let’s look at how evil thinks or you could call it, the psychology of evil, if you wanted to use longer words. So what  is the psychology of evil? What causes a person to become evil?
Defining what evil really is Let’s even define evil for a moment, shall we? Shall we attempt to define it in terms of what is it really? What is evil really?
Participant: I was feeling that evil is a bully actually.
Okay it’s a bully, yeah.
Participant: Which means to me that, it kind of puts up a front, it puts up a mean front but it’s not actually going to do…It does often do what it threatens to do, doesn’t it, evil? In fact that’s the whole problem. It’s not just a threat it’s an
actual action. But let’s look at the word bully, what are we saying about evil in that regard? [00:28:49.15]
Participant: It terrorises you.
So the purpose is to what? Terrorise.
Participant: And overpower.
Participant: Compelled to feed on fear.To compel, yes, very good.
Participant: To dominate.
Dominate.
Participant: Control.
Control.
Participant: To have its way.
Yep, so it’s demanding, isn’t it? It demands. It wants.
Participant: To qualm its own fears.
Yeah but that’s the underlying motivation of it, shall we say. So I will talk about the underlying motivation in a minute.
Participant: Destroy.
Destroy, yes, very important. And does it care whether it destroys the person who’s evil or the other person? It’s not often very selective, is it? Often you’re destroying yourself while you’re evil as well, and it doesn’t seem to matter; anything else that you can think of? [00:30:03.20]
Participant: Self-fulfilment, for self-fulfilment. In other words it just doesn’t care what it does to others as long as it gets what it wants. So let’s call it selfish.
Participant: To hide the truth.
So its object is to hide truth, yep.
Participant: What about instant gratification?
Very good, yep. Instant gratification. That’s what it expects, isn’t it? It expects you to meet its demands immediately. Without question, without any form of pondering about it or thinking about it or thinking about whether you want to or
not, none of that. So it’s totally the opposite of free will in a way, isn’t it? We’re not going to have free will in the face of evil most of the times. That’s how evil thinks; it wants to create no free will. It wants to have no free will except for itself, except for itself. Anything else? [00:31:14.11]Participant: What about somebody who’s confused between evil and love, for instance they do an evil act towards
another person, they say, “I did it because I loved them”. So would evil be confusing a person or something?
Can you say it self justifies?
Participant: Okay.
Participant: Manipulates.
And manipulates, yes. By the way, how many of you, just as a personal question, and I know these are personal questions that are sometimes a bit confronting, but how many of you have thought about when somebody crossed you
in love, you know when you’re in a relationship with somebody.
Participant: I did.
Like, cheating? You’re already putting your hand up! You’re in a relationship and somebody you feel harmed you in love, how many of you have thought about trying to get them back? Not get them back into your life, but get them back and make them feel the same pain you felt? How many of you would have loved to see that happen? So can you see
how many of us do have the underlying emotion that creates the evil tendency sitting within us? And so there is a belief on the earth that man is inherently evil, isn’t there? There’s this underlying belief. So that’s the underlying feeling of evil. Evil is trying, basically, to control. It’s trying to gain a control and ascendency, isn’t it? It wants what it wants. That’s how evil thinks.

How evil acts
So what does it do when it thinks these things? If that’s how evil thinks, what does evil eventually do?
Participant: Looks for someone who is susceptible, someone they can manipulate. It looks for someone it can influence.
Yes. I agree totally. Good.
Participant: It gets people afraid and then sucks energy off of it.
So if feeds on the fear of others?
Participant: Exactly, yeah.
Yep, I agree. Totally, anything else that you can think of?
Participant: It controls the information that gets out to perpetuate that fear thing.
It does, certainly. Yep.
Participant: I was just going to say it can create shame because if you were to think about some of the stuff they’re asking… I’ve thought about stuff like that before. I didn’t necessarily act it out every time but I have had an initial
thought like that and that can create a shame in yourself that you would be able to think something like that Yes. So if you have shame in yourself that’s unresolved, can you see how easy it is to manipulate your shame as well?
If I decided to manipulate your shame, if I knew what your shame was, then that would be an evil act, wouldn’t it basically? It would be an act of harm. But that’s what evil often does. Evil often manipulates the shame of others. Yes.
Participant: It’s motivated by greed.
In what way… greed …in what way, Lawrence?
Participant: It just wants it all.
Okay, wants everything, not just money, but everything. Participant: Power. Money.
Power, control, everything. Yep.

Evil takes pleasure in the pain of others
Participant: It takes pleasure in everyone else’s pain.
It does. This is a very important part that I want to write down. It takes pleasure in other’s pain. We want to come back  to that because we want to see why we would do that. Why would we have a longing to take pleasure in other’s pain?
Participant: Aren’t they just hurt to begin with?
The person who’s evil?
Participant: The person who’s allowed things to reside in their heart.
I agree but a lot of the times when we’re faced with evil in our day-to-day life, we don’t think, “Oh that person’s just sad.” Or we don’t think, “Oh that person’s just got a lot of fears of their own.” Most of the time we’re in a totally  different place when we’re faced with it in our personal life. Intellectually we can go, “Oh well they must have some sadness or they must have some fear of their own in order for them to take such an action.” But then when someone comes along and murders your child, in that situation you’re not thinking, “Oh he must have had some sadness in him.”
You’re not thinking that anymore, are you, in that moment? And this is what we’ve got to do with evil. We’ve got to see that the emotions we feel take over the intellect. And I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. What we need to do is address the emotions that take over the intellect that cause us to act in our response to evil, whether we fight it or whatever we do to it. It’s our emotions that take over the intellect in the process. And so unless we face the emotions inside of us that cause us to take over our intellect, when we get put in the situation no amount of intellectual reasoning before that point will help us. We need to see that we need to address something emotionally to cure this issue.
Participant: Do you suppose, AJ, that deep down it’s the evil trying to achieve security, for itself through controlling others?
I agree. Most evil has as its cause a deep sense of fear of its own. But unfortunately the person who perpetrates evil is not thinking that at the time they’re perpetrating evil. They’re already in the, what I would call, higher level emotion, not in the base emotion that creates it. So we’ll look at its structure in a minute in terms of the different emotions that
create evil. Because we need to come to understand it to understand how love combats it. Do you understand? We need to understand evil to be able to then understand how love can overcome it. How love has power over it. Any other comment you’d like to make about evil itself? How it thinks and what it does?
Participant: It tries to separate us from love.
It always tries to separate us from love. In fact what it does most of the time is tells us that love has no power. Love has no power.

Spirits in the hells of the spirit world believe that evil is the most powerful force
It’s interesting when we speak with spirits in the hells of the spirit world because every single spirit who comes to speak generally believes that love has no power. They only believe in evil. They only believe that evil is the thing with power. In fact many of them are doing this, if I can describe it to you as a picture. Imagine this is the spirit who’s in the
hells. So today we had some women spirits who are in the hells come to speak with us and those women spirits had been harmed when they were on earth, they’d been sexually abused and raped on earth. They’d had sexual violence perpetrated towards them. They’d died during this sexual violence. And then they passed into the spirit world.

And they wanted to talk to us about evil, about why shouldn’t they be continually afraid of evil? Interestingly enough those spirits have even darker spirits surrounding them, who are men spirits who are the same kind of spirits as the people on earth who actually caused their own death. Even in a darker location. And these spirits are even motivated by some even darker spirits.
Successively darker spirits in the hells of the spirit world
So instead of them feeling that love rules the spirit world, which it does, and we’ll describe how maybe later, they believe that evil rules the spirit world and the more evil you are, the more power you have. That’s their belief. And the very darkest of these spirits are the people who control the financial and political systems of this earth. The very darkest of these spirits and they use forms of threats and blackmail and so forth of potential events to get these people to do the harm to these people. Do you understand? These people here even (AJ points to the middle spirits); the ones who are harming these (AJ points to the women spirits at the top) are totally frequently guided by even darker
people who are more threatening to them. They are more frightened of them than they are of anything else. So fear is a huge factor in evil, even after a person has passed. [00:42:02.02]
Participant: It’s kind of disheartening to think that not only are we fighting this on earth in the physical but now you’re saying we’ve got all of this other energy around us and that’s sort of disheartening.

Disheartening is a good word. There’s another word that we often feel when I start a discussion like this, and that is hopeless. These are often feelings that come up in a discussion. Now I’m not saying all of these things to totally dishearten you and make you feel completely hopeless. However these are often emotions we feel when we face the truth of evil on the planet, and the truth of evil in the spirit world. In the first dimension of the spirit world… there’s other dimensions in the spirit world, lots of them, but the first dimension of the spirit world is almost totally populated
by people who believe in evil. When I say ‘believe in evil’, their primary belief system is that evil is the most powerful force. Now there are some of them who are petrified of that, and there are some of them who love that. But collectively they believe that evil and terror are the most powerful forces. So when we come to talk with the spirits, they feel the same
thing you feel; disheartened and hopeless. They just feel like there’s no other way than to pander to it. We have to pander to it, we have to bide it. We have to do something, one of those things, that we mentioned earlier to stop ourselves from feeling those feelings actually. So what do we do?Participant: These evil people or spirits… if they’re trying to gain security by controlling others, perhaps really all they need is real love in their lives.

I agree.
Participant: And that’s the answer for them.
Redefining love
It is the answer but we now have to define real love because remember when we wrote love on the board up there
before.
That’s our opinion of love and that didn’t seem very powerful to me. That’s the issue. So the issue we face is that real
love, potentially has the way to solve this problem theoretically. We need to find out how. To be practical about the discussion, we need to come up with practical circumstances and situations that demonstrate how real love can solve the problem. But we need to know what real love is. It’s no good thinking that real love is insipid, weak and all those
kind of things because real love isn’t any of those things. But it’s what we believe real love is. And unfortunately
because we believe real love is like that we then feel that it has no power. [00:45:23.19]

Evil vs. good
So the problem we face is that when we talk about this evil vs. good discussion, and I find it very fascinating because… Hollywood is awesome! Honestly. The reason why is it’s a reflection of what we as a society believe about these things. And what do you see in most Hollywood movies? Good always prevails. Sorry? But let’s define good.
Hollywood’s definition of good
What does Hollywood define ‘good’ as?
Participant: Superheroes.
Well no, no.Participant: Fighting back.
Yes, yes, yes. They’re the ones who fight back with righteousness on their side. Isn’t that the definition?
Mary: Semi-automatic…
A semi-automatic gun or an automatic rifle killing all the evil ones! And then the good triumphs! Is that what we’re
talking about here? I don’t think so. Alright, so even Hollywood’s definition of good, I would actually classify as evil.

Sexual attraction can result from feeling protected by a man from evil
Mary: That’s what I was feeling before about this placating issue. I feel almost in society it’s such a common injury that we almost now laud things that are evil. So a lot of people who are regarded as celebrities do some pretty dark things but we almost worship them and Hollywood is based on this; if I’m a big strong man who’s prone to violence,
I’m actually hot. And so I feel like there’s this real societal feeling that shows how much we want to placate evil.
Yes. In fact it’s very interesting because even a lot of sexual attraction on earth is not actually about true attraction but it’s actually about how much the man will protect me from evil. Isn’t that interesting? We’re actually wanting the man to be partly evil so that he can protect me from evil. And a man who’s like that is viewed as a good man. He’s a good man. He’s a good man if he reverts to violence with a just cause. That makes him good. Of course the definition of a just cause varies widely depending on the circumstances. And sometimes a just cause just gets down to my cause, whatever that is.

But this is the problem, even a lot of what we view as attractiveness on the planet is all about placating evil. It’s all about whether this person will be able to placate evil. And if he can, then I’m attracted to him. Or if he can fight evil I’m attracted to him. If he runs away from evil, what do I feel? He’s weak, insipid. Yep? And if he’s a pacifist, what do I feel? He’s got no courage. Do you know in the Second World War there were a group of people … when your country

America … who refused to go to the Second World War. The majority of them got tarred and feathered and put in jail.

Why? Because not going to war was viewed as unpatriotic and weak, cowardly and so forth. Society views righteous violence as good
So interesting, isn’t it, that we even societally have this viewpoint that evil is the only thing that can overcome evil. But we don’t call it evil. We call it good and the reason why we call it good (when it’s just the same as evil, it has the same actions,) it’s still violent but it’s righteous. It’s righteous violence. Right’s on your side so you can be violent, if right’s on your side. That’s the viewpoint. Is it working?
Participant: No.
No. So it doesn’t work. But that’s how we view it. It’s interesting that if you compare evil with good for most people in  their mind, both of them are violent but one is unrighteous.
In other words one of them is defined as wrong. Now for each society the definition of wrong differs. So for instance, in your society the definition of wrong is a Muslim with a machine gun. In a Muslim society the definition of wrong is

America with an atomic bomb. Can you see the definition of righteous vs. unrighteous just differs depending on the location? But both resort to violence. Both resort to violence.

Participant: It’s entertaining and it sells.
It’s entertaining and it sells? In the movies perhaps but it’s not very entertaining in real life.
Participant: Correct.
In real life it hurts.
Participant: I was going to say that it seems that one of the inherent problems with trusting love is that we can see violence, you can see the overpowering of something, you can see the action, but with love it’s like it happens behind the scenes with God’s Laws and they’re invisible. So it’s hard to trust, or it’s hard to develop the trust in love because it happens in the invisible realm as opposed to right in front of your face, someone’s dying.
I can’t agree with that, Jennifer. I understand that’s the conception that many of us have, but the reason why we have this conception is because none of us have really seen love on the planet really at this point. And the reason why we then start feeling love is sort of like an invisible force, but love isn’t like that. It’s actually a very, very powerful force and we’ll talk about the power in it as we go along in our discussion today and tomorrow. But if I can just go back to
this idea about violence, if we can for a moment. Let’s look at… what we’re basically saying on the planet is that if the violence is righteous, then the person who conducts it is good

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